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Short Genealogy |
5 February 2018 |
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Dr Geoffrey Mann |
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2 Thomas William SHORT 1878-1961 |
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m Alice MANSFIELD 1902 |
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Thomas was born in 1878 in Bethnal Green where his parents managed an oil and colour shop. He followed his father into the trade occupying various addresses in Bethnal Green.
Shortly after marrying Alice MANSFIELD, he became a manager of a shop in Salmon Lane market, Stepney. The shop, like his father's, was one of a chain owned by a Mr Williams. Six children were born while the family lived over the shop. Thomas joined the army about 1916 and served on the Western Front as a sapper while Alice looked after the shop and the children.
After the war, Thomas continued as manager of the shop until about 1922 when the chain of shops closed. Thomas and Alice moved to Manor Park with their family, living in a house owned by Thomas' brother Samuel. At this time he worked in a tobacconist shop in Leman Street. The house was bombed in the second world war and Thomas and Alice moved to Dover Rd, Wanstead to live in their daughter Rose's house. Alice died of pneumonia in 1961 and Thomas died of the same cause just four months later, aged 82
Tom was a gentle likeable man, devoted to his wife Alice. As manager of the shop in Salmon Lane, he was a respected local figure, well educated, and always willing to help. A story is told that in the early days of the 1914-18 war, a riot took place in the Lane against a German-owned shop but Tom was able to lead the family to safety around the back. he played the clarinet in a church band. I knew him when he was living at Dover Rd where he seemed content with life, and he passed on his chess set to me.
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age DATE TS AM |
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1Jul1878 28Jul1878 3Apr1881 2 5Apr1891 12 31Mar1901 22 21Dec1902 24 23 c.1904 26 25 28Sep1904 26 25 2q1905 27 26 12Jul1906 28 27 21Dec1908 30 29 16Nov1910 32 31 11Jul1912 34 33 1Aug1914 36 35 12Dec1915 37 36 c.1922 44 43 29Sep1939 61 60 c.1944 66 65 15Feb1961 82 81 15Jun1961 82 |
born at 50 New York St christened at St Matthew Bethnal Green; parents at 50 York Place living with parents at 6 Allas Rd a scholar living with parents at 66 Armagh Rd Bow with family at 25 Cardigan Rd, Bow; Thomas was a general shopkeeper mar Alice MANSFIELD at Camden Town; Thomas an oilman at 18 Archer St Thos becomes manager of William's oilshop in Salmon Lane son Thomas Frank born son Thomas Frank died dau Alice Frances born dau Nellie Deborah born at Dixon St, Limehouse; Thos an oilmans manager dau Rose Margaret born at 148a Salmon Lane; Thos an oilmans manager son Ernest George born dau Ivy Ethel born Thomas
enlisted in the army at Stepney |
b=born m=married d=died
b 1Jul1878 Thomas William boy at 50 New York St
f: Thomas William SHORT oilman's assistant; m: Frances Martha SHORT formerly KILBOURN
r 7Aug1878 at Church, Bethnal Green MDX by T.W SHORT father of 50 New York St, Bethnal Green
C 28Jul1878 b 1Jul1878 Thomas William, s Thomas William & Frances Martha, oilman, 50 York Place at St Matthew, Bethnal Green
m 21Dec1902 at Camden Town parish church after banns
Thomas William SHORT bch 24 oilman, 18 Archer St & Alice MANSFIELD spr 23, 28 Georgiana St
f: Thomas William SHORT oilman, Francis MANSFIELD wheelwright; wit: Samuel SHORT, Helena MANSFIELD
b 28Sep1904 Thomas Frank; died 2q1905 (GRO index) meningitis?
b 12Jul1906 Alice Frances; m W.PROUT; d c.1974
b 21Dec1908 Nellie Deborah at 22 Dixon St, Limehouse
b 16Nov1910 Rose Margaret at 148a Salmon Lane; m Arthur FRENCH
b 11Jul1912 Ernest George m Gladys WINDOW (data from dau Gillian)
b 1Aug1914 Ivy Ethel (school record); m A.SAUNDERS
b 25Oct1904 Thomas Frank SHORT; r 25Oct904 at Limehouse, Stepney (short certificate)
b 21Dec1908 Nellie Deborah girl at 22 Dixon St; f: Thomas William SHORT, oilman's manager; m: Alice SHORT formerly MANSFIELD
r 28Jan1909 at Limehouse, Stepney LND by T.W SHORT father, of 22 Dixon St, Limehouse
b 16Nov1910 Rose Margaret SHORT girl at 148a Salmon Lane; f: Thomas William SHORT oilmans manager; m: Alice SHORT formerly MANSFIELD
r 21Dec1910 at Limehouse, Stepney by T.W SHORT father of 148a Salmon Lane
d 15Feb1961 Alice SHORT age 81 of 5 Dover Rd Wanstead, wife of Thomas William SHORT shop manager retired
at Whipps Cross Hospital Leytonstone, of broncho-pneumonia
r 16Feb1961 at Forest, Essex South Western, by R.M.FRENCH, daughter, of 5 Dover Rd, E12
d 12Jun1961 Thomas William SHORT age 82 of 5 Dover Rd Wanstead, oil and colour merchants manager (retired)
at Whipps Cross Hospital Leytonstone of broncho-pneumonia
r 13Jun1961 at Forest, Essex South Western by R M FRENCH, daughter, of 5 Dover Rd E12
Thomas SHORT he mar 26 1855 oil & colormans asst. Bethnal Green
Fanny SHORT wi mar 31 1850 Bethnal Green
Thomas SHORT so 2 1879 Bethnal Green
Samuel SHORT so 1 1880 Bethnal Green
Samuel KILBOURNE he wdr 58 1823 labourer dock Spitalfields
Elizabeth A KILBOURNE da unm 21 1860 boot binder Bethnal Green
Mary Ann KILBOURNE da unm 19 1862 boot binder Bethnal Green
at same address:
Phoebe CRONEY he wid 64 1817 boxmaker shell St Luke's
NOTE:should be Allas Rd; Fanny SHORT was Samuel KILBOURN's daughter
Thomas SHORT he mar 36 1855 oilmans manager; color; employed Bethnal Green
Frances M SHORT wi mar 41 1850 Bethnal Green
Thomas SHORT so 12 1879 scholar Bethnal Green
Samuel SHORT so 11 1880 scholar Bethnal Green
William SHORT so 9 1882 scholar Mile End
Sidney SHORT so 6 1885 scholar Old Ford
Frances B SHORT da 1 1890 Old Ford
Henry HOPTROUGH bo sin 21 1870 oilman assistant, color Portsmouth, Hants
Frederick SPENCER bo sin 23 1868 oilman assistant, color South Hackney, LND
Thomas SHORT he mar 45 1856 oil & color manager worker LND Bethnal Green
Frances SHORT wi mar 51 1850 LND Bethnal Green
Samuel SHORT so sin 21 1880 oilmans (color) assistant worker LND Bethnal Green
Thomas SHORT so sin 22 1879 general shopkeeper own acct LND Bethnal Green
William SHORT so sin 19 1882 oilmans (color) assistant worker LND Mile End
Sidney SHORT so sin 16 1885 oilmans (color) assistant worker LND Old Ford
Frances SHORT da sin 11 1890 LND Old Ford
Georgina SHORT se sin 14 1887 general servant worker ESS Tidal Basin
next to Wolf & Rosa EIGELES and brother; job dealer shop; all born Austria
Thomas William SHORT he mar 32 1879 oilman’s manager, dealer MDX
Alice SHORT wi mar 31 1880 mar 8yrs, 4 born 3 alive 1 died MDX
Alice Frances SHORT da 4 1907 MDX
Nellie Deborah SHORT da 2 1909 MDX
Rose Margaret SHORT da 4m 1911 MDX
Thomas William Short he 42/11 mar MDX oil & domestic stores manager S
Williams & Sons, 148a Salmon Laneouse
Alice Short wi 41/10 mar MDX home duties
Alice Frances Short da 14/11 MDX part time girl probationer London Telephone Service, C P Office Newgate St
Nellie Deborah Short da 12/5 MDX
Rose Margaret Short da 10/7 MDX
Ernest George Short so 8/11 MDX
Ivy Ethel Short da 6/10 MDX
SHORT Thomas 1 Jul 1878 Oil & Domestic Stores (Manager)
SHORT Alice 31 Jul 1879 Unemployed domestic duties
SHORT Ivy E 1 Aug 1914 Shorthand Typist
161 Salmon Lane
1903 Ray Charles
1904 - 1910 Samuel Williams & Sons
1911 no entry
148a Salmon Lane
1910 coffee rooms
1911 - 1922 Samuel Williams & Sons
1923 Thos Tennant Williams
1926 no entry
Samuel made his will on 19Feb1962 leaving £13,598. In a codicil dated 6Mar1964 he bequeathed his freehold property at 49 Durham Rd to the present occupier Gwendolin Gatenby
Thomas Short's service record in WW1 has not survived. Discharge documents held at TNA (WO-364) however give the following timeline. His awards are documented at WO-372-18-54663
10Dec1915 |
enlisted for home service the duration of the war at Stepney; enrolled as 204649 in the 1st Regiment of the Royal Fusiliers, the City of London Regiment, in the Army Reserve |
5Nov1916 | examined at the Recruiting office Shoreditch; physical development v.good; 5ft 4 1/4ins, 142lbs, chest 37 1/2 slight problem with upper dentures |
5Apr1917 | mobilized; service reckons from this date |
6Apr1917 | posted to the Regiment at Whitehall; 2 inoculations and a vaccination performed later in April |
13Feb1918 | embarked at Southampton with the 4th battalion of the Regiment |
14Feb1918 |
arrived Le Havre |
2Mar1918 | posted to 2nd battalion of the London Regiment at Reinforcement Camp |
16Mar1918 | joined unit in the field |
15Jun1918 | unfit for duty, influenza |
21Jun1918 | in Hospital at Wimereux |
1Jul1918 | sailed to England on the Hospital Ship St Andrew |
2Jul1918 | admitted to Suffolk Hospital, Bury St Edmund with Influenza |
6Jul1918 | transferred to Plumton House Hospital, Whepstone Bury St Edmund, health improving |
22Jul1918 | on leave at Salmons Lane home |
1Aug1918 | posted to 1st London Regiment Reserves at Blackdown |
4Sep1918 | transferred to 29th battalion at Clacton |
23Jan1919 | proceeded to Dispersal Station, Crystal Palace |
20Feb2019 | transferred to Reserve category Z on demobilization; character v good |
8Oct1919 | Claim for Disability Pension: Complains of bad pains in legs for which he he was invalided from France July 1918 also complains of teeth. Opinion of Medical Board general condition v good, heart and lungs sound, a well developed muscular man, there are no objective signs of any disability except his mouth for which treatment has been recommended; degree of disablement: nil |
1919 | awarded the Victory and the British Medals for service in an active theatre of war
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Most documents state Thomas served in France with the 2nd battalion, two documents (medal card and embarkment at Southampton) mention the 4th battalion but the war diaries of neither 2nd nor 4th battalion do not make any comment of a reinforcement at the appropriate time, nor any mention of influenza.